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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Mar 20, 2009 9:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Does Anyone Know What Kind of Single Malt William Tell Likes?

Got back from San Diego late yesterday - found a much anticipated package in the mailbox. Mrs. Mando was not as happy as I was, but I did get an eye roll.

Many thanks WT.

Now back to the subject question - since he won't tell me I figured I put it to the erudite and epicurean assemblage here.

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Poster: yesss! Date: Mar 20, 2009 2:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know What Kind of Single Malt William Tell Likes?

just to add another name to the conversation...

i have really been enjoying this single malt irish whiskey called tyrconnell lately ( http://www.tyrconnellwhiskey.com/_tastingNotes/tastingNotes.asp ). it is a good option for folks who prefer irish whiskey but are looking for something a little more refined and complex. i am normally a scotch drinker (glenmorangie or laphroaig), but this was on sale so i checked it out and really liked it. a nice break from the more phenolic character of the whiskys.

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Poster: Single Malt Date: Mar 20, 2009 11:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trust me its Talisker Does Anyone Know What Kind of Single Malt William Tell Likes?

Talisker

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 20, 2009 11:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trust me its Talisker Does Anyone Know What Kind of Single Malt William Tell Likes?

You're confusing Tell with SDH.

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=forumPost%3A1%20AND%20talisker

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 20, 2009 11:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell's a slob...but Rob knows this...

Thanks, MJ, for the kind thought. And thanks to you too Rob, for knowing my preferences.

Yes, Powers, BMills and most of all, Jame's, are the favs. Sure, the "uppercut" ones, though expensive, are great to enjoy now and again, and I would more often if it didn't take my 401k for one bottle, but I find the run of the mill editions to be just fine...

I will say, I am not a Scotch man, and even those (I hate to say, might have been Connemara?) of Irish derivation, whisk-wise that taste a bit too earthy, or peat bog esque to be crude...

So, smooth Jamesons defn hits the spot with me...

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Mar 21, 2009 4:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell's a slob...but Rob knows this...

Back in my drinkin' days it was Jamesons for me. Goes nice in Coffee too.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Mar 20, 2009 2:07pm
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sorry guys, I don't drink


well, maybe I like to smoke — please keep this secret Mr Tell
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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 20, 2009 3:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tell's a slob...but Rob knows this...

Hey, man--I gotta tell ya, it almost brings tears to my eyes...all the hugs and love around here. Well, okay, pulling myself up by my bootstraps now.

I didn't pursue the drinking aspect much further since we all know of Dire's situation, and of course, many others. So, I understand completely. And frankly, I'd smoke like a chimney if I didn't worry about the consequences (sorry, just "regular" smokes).

Hey, was that really you in the exchange with Rasta? You are looking pretty damn good for this age (that is meant in a non-man-crush kinda way).

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Mar 20, 2009 11:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trust me its Talisker Does Anyone Know What Kind of Single Malt William Tell Likes?

First, confusing Tell is not quite the task it once was.

Two, yes I do have a weak spot for Talisker (with Laphroaig running neck and neck).

As for blended scotch whisky, did once have the occasion to have some Johnnie Walker Blue that just about removed my head and filled it with liquid bliss.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Mar 20, 2009 12:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trust me its Talisker Does Anyone Know What Kind of Single Malt William Tell Likes?

SDH -

mandojamr@yahoo.com

Drop me an email - if you are interested I'd be happy to drop a couple of decanted airplane minis of some of my malts in the mail.

I have a few that will make you forget about the Johnny Walker Blue in a heartbeat.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 20, 2009 11:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trust me its Talisker Does Anyone Know What Kind of Single Malt William Tell Likes?

There you are. I was hoping that a discussion of some of the finer things life has to offer would lure you briefly from The Compound. Good to see you. My early evening refreshment is raised in an Arizona direction.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 20, 2009 12:08pm
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That's good to hear--our state needs all the help it can get, and even if only spiritual (?), it can't hurt!

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Poster: Single Malt Date: Mar 20, 2009 11:23am
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Sorry must be the Alzheimers kicking in.

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Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Mar 20, 2009 12:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Bourbon newbie: path to enjoyment

A few weeks ago, I bought my first bottle of bourbon (yes, I know it's not scotch, but hey... my brother lives in Kentucky). 2 experiences earlier in life had kept me from it for 20+ years:

1) Age 7: I walked into the dining room where my parents were dining with friends. I guess I was staring at my dad's glass of bourbon, and for kicks he said "do you want to try a sip?" I did... my eyes teared up, but I managed to eek out the lie "It's good" which made everyone laugh.

2) Age 16: early binge drinking with friends experience which left me in horrible shape the next day. The memory of the whiskey smell kept me away from it all through college and into my late 30's.

For some reason, I am now inspired to learn to appreciate it. Last week, I tried it over a few ice cubes, which seemed pretty harsh & medicinal to my untrained palate. Last night, I tried it with club soda in a highball glass. Obviously, this made it more quaffable, but to call it a pleasurable experience would be a lie.

For all you die-hard scotch men, can you tell me whether you always liked the taste, or at least quickly developed an appreciation for it?

Am I just not manly enough???? Please don't let that be the answer...

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Poster: GREENBUD Date: Mar 20, 2009 2:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bourbon newbie: path to enjoyment

my personal favorate some may disagree but thenagain it is bourbon we are talkin about..http://www.makersmark.com/heritage/index.siv

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Poster: spacedface Date: Mar 20, 2009 3:15pm
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Some may not remember the vintage, thinking we haven't had this spirit here since 1969, but if you must maybe some really fine Maker's mark like the Eleusinian stuff.
(Caution: associated with decreased risk of suicide)

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Mar 20, 2009 1:29pm
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Bourbon is cool, but I prefer...

Calvados

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Poster: smi2les25 Date: Mar 20, 2009 1:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bourbon newbie: path to enjoyment

Bourbon = Beam Family

Jim Beam Rye - 80 proof
Knob Creek - 100 proof
Booker's - 120-127 proof
Baker's - 107 proof
Basil Haydel - 80 proof


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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Mar 20, 2009 3:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bourbon newbie: path to enjoyment

its evan williams for me!!! http://www.whiskeysammlung.de/Bilder%20klein/Evan%20williams%207.jpg

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Mar 20, 2009 1:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bourbon newbie: path to enjoyment

First off cosmic - do you sit down to pee?????

Just kidding - honestly, scotch for me absolutely was an acquired taste. I was on my first deployment in Scotland back in '84. We had gone out to a pub for fish and chips, haggis and something to drink. I ordered a Coke and the barkeep told me it was $3 a can. Then he said his malt whiskies were 40-90 pence a dram. He must have known I was a newbie because he laughed and lined them up in order and took me on a tour of Scottish whiskies - Highland, Lowland, Speyside, Campbelton, Islay. Over the next few nights he took a lot of my money and put me through vertical tastings within a region and horizontals across regions.

Eventually, I could begin to nose and taste the differences - so it became a bit of a game to guess what region I was dramming and what finishes had been used.

Part of scotch drinking is snobbery, but it is a lot of fun to go to tastings and try your luck at naming the malts. Back in the day I could go 7 for 10 on region and 10 for 10 on finish. Vertical tastings within a distillery were always tough, but the most fun. I had the rare opportunity to sample a 1946 Macallan 50 year old at one - the host surprised us all - since it goes for about $350.00 USD a dram!!!!!!!!!

So the not so short answer is yes - it is an acquired taste. I have found it very intriguing to go back into the bourbon world and try the single barrels and special vattings coming out of Kentucky and Tennessee.

Have fun - I sure did.

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Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Mar 20, 2009 1:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bourbon newbie: path to enjoyment

First off, sitting IS more comfortable! Seriously, thanks for your reply, and it's good to know that it was an acquired taste for you. Sounds like you were introduced to scotch in the ideal circumstance, I doubt I'll have that chance, so I'll have to go bottle by bottle (I don't get to bars much).

I can definitely see a bit of similarity between scotch snobbery and wine snobbery.

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/25/24-wine/

However, I know where that comes from. Once you're in a somewhat private world of expertise that not everyone knows or appreciates, it's natural to be a bit proud. I don't get jealous about not being in "the club" but I do get envious about not being able to experience something that could add another dimension of enjoyment to life. Just like great music, sometimes the best things in life aren't appreciated on the first few listenings/tastes.

Cheers!

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Mar 20, 2009 1:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bourbon newbie: path to enjoyment

First off cosmic - do you sit down to pee?????

Just kidding - honestly, scotch for me absolutely was an acquired taste. I was on my first deployment in Scotland back in '84. We had gone out to a pub for fish and chips, haggis and something to drink. I ordered a Coke and the barkeep told me it was $3 a can. Then he said his malt whiskies were 40-90 pence a dram. He must have known I was a newbie because he laughed and lined them up in order and took me on a tour of Scottish whiskies - Highland, Lowland, Speyside, Campbelton, Islay. Over the next few nights he took a lot of my money and put me through vertical tastings within a region and horizontals across regions.

Eventually, I could begin to nose and taste the differences - so it became a bit of a game to guess what region I was dramming and what finishes had been used.

Part of scotch drinking is snobbery, but it is a lot of fun to go to tastings and try your luck at naming the malts. Back in the day I could go 7 for 10 on region and 10 for 10 on finish. Vertical tastings within a distillery were always tough, but the most fun. I had the rare opportunity to sample a 1946 Macallan 50 year old at one - the host surprised us all - since it goes for about $350.00 USD a dram!!!!!!!!!

So the not so short answer is yes - it is an acquired taste. I have found it very intriguing to go back into the bourbon world and try the single barrels and special vattings coming out of Kentucky and Tennessee.

Have fun - I sure did.

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Mar 20, 2009 1:16pm
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I go through about 4 bottles of this a year....it's very moreish!

http://www.scotchwhisky.net/malt/cragganmore.htm

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Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Mar 20, 2009 1:33pm
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Thanks for that rec - by the way, I didn't think twice about any implication of my "manly enough" comment, but you apparently didn't mind :-)

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Mar 20, 2009 1:39pm
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No offense taken at all....I've drunk many 'manly' types under the table when it comes to scotch and bourbon.

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Poster: smi2les25 Date: Mar 20, 2009 1:56pm
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figures... I've seen them under the table pix.
I enjoy George Dickel when I sport's phishin'

http://www.whiskeysammlung.de/

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Poster: rastamon Date: Mar 20, 2009 3:36pm
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Mary took a dry dive from a hotel room
Bobby hung himself from a cell in the tombs
Judy jumped in front of a subway train
Eddie got slit in the jugular vein
And Eddie, I miss you more than all the others,
This song is for you my brother


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bOjc70f4p8

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 20, 2009 3:11pm
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Hey! Are you talking to my girlfriend?

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Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Mar 20, 2009 3:36pm
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Damn - I knew I shouldn't have replied!! No disrespect intended at all, WT - I wouldn't dare try to intrude. Just got too comfortable and I crossed the line. Next time, instead of communicating directly with Miss D, I'll instead ask you to pass along "thanks" so that you can control the message (if you should choose to pass it along at all).

Respectfully, CCD

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 20, 2009 3:53pm
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That's more like it...hmmm, wait a minute...this new age stuff...I think I have to trust implicitly. So, nevermind, but do appreciate the thought.

Hard I know, but there you have it...

Hey, can you believe this place? Everyone's "heads all empty" and such...suppose that helps when communicating with me, as SDH notes.

In fact, I always thought the "heads all empty" line is a fantastic metaphor (though SCBall and I discussed the more tangible aspects of the potential reference)...frankly, that so perfectly fits when you are "high" (life, drugs, love, money, whatever), at least to me...all other cares vanish...

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Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Mar 20, 2009 4:01pm
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I'm with you 100% on the beauty of "heads all empty"... I always loved that line - not having a care in the world, but dizzy with pleasure. For me, it's strongly associated with youth, when I hardly knew what stress was and I truly knew how to use free time. Now, when I find myself with a free hour, I obsess over whether I'm using that hour in the optimal way, which greatly diminishes my ability to enjoy it. Whoa - heavy stuff! Time to lock up the office, get home, get on with appreciating bourbon.

Glad we can still be archive friends...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 20, 2009 4:30pm
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Absolutely! It's Friday after all...

Yep--all other cares vanish; like the "infatuation stage"...I suppose all that nonsense about crankiness with drivers would have vanished if I had just recognized that I should be in that stage with Miss D...hmmm, that might be the beauty of the Web, and webrelationships...you never get past the first few days. Cause you never meet up. Unless you do, and then you generally get arrested, and rightfully so.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Mar 20, 2009 3:38pm
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There's only one bourbon for someone as unsophisticated as I:

http://tinyurl.com/unrefinedcueballsfave

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Mar 20, 2009 5:20pm
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Mmmm. The kickin' chickin' - don't take much Turkey for some righteous hurling to commence. (Cost two dollars and it burns like hell.)

Lately, me and the "pass the bottle round" boys have been chasing our beers with Bulleit Bourbon. We do our best to avoid acting like Scotch snobs, refraining from raising a pinky when grasping the neck of the bottle and swilling down another "nip."


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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Mar 20, 2009 7:25pm
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yeah!!! earl !! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySgOds3bzcc and check this out!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M597-6lhKrg&;feature=related

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Mar 20, 2009 8:40pm
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Swamp.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Mar 20, 2009 3:48pm
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i prefer to be a wine snob

http://www.bumwine.com/nighttrain.html

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 20, 2009 11:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Does Anyone Know What Kind of Single Malt William Tell Likes?

Thanks, but of course, no return gift is necessay...besides, if Bob or Koons ever decides trading/sharing is out of line, who knows, this little conversation and any compensation rec'd long since enjoyed might land me in court, eh?

It's the thought that counts, and here's the deal I will make with you: because of the 17th having just passed, I promise to raise a nice glass of Jameson this afternoon (they were on special!), while glowing in that and the knowledge that you are dutifully enjoying, decoding or just thinking about your early era shows...

Cool?

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Mar 20, 2009 11:44am
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If you insist.

But I do have a bottle of vintage Benrinnes that needs a home. It's a Speyside so the peatiness should be bearable.

More like creosote coated heather, burning on a fall afternoon. A mighty tasty finish too - as long and lingering as an Orkney sunset in June.

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Poster: abilene22 Date: Mar 20, 2009 11:43am
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I've still got a bit of Glengoyne in the liquor cabinet, straight form the Scottish highlands or so they say. Smooth.

Mandojammer: Thanks for the links to 'the Cheese', I've found them to be nearly as smooth as the single malt. Been listening for a week now and wondering why I never did before.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Mar 20, 2009 12:10pm
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abilene -

Always enjoyed Glengoyne - they have a superb Cask Strength (114 proof) and an 86 proof Scottish Oak finish out there.

Got an email from Jason Hann (percussionist from the Cheese) - they are reuniting for one show this summer at the Rothbury Music Festival in Michigan. Trying to figure out how to swing that one.......

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Poster: smi2les25 Date: Mar 20, 2009 1:28pm
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Highland Park... 12 year old.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 20, 2009 10:14am
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I would suggest you go Irish. Bushmills and Jamesons are both enjoyed by Master Tell and I can produce evidence to back this up if called upon to do so.

Nice one, Namor.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Mar 20, 2009 1:31pm
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Here's a more recent pic........

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Mar 20, 2009 10:29am
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Rob -

I do have a bottle of Connemara Cask Strength in the vault - but I don't like anyone in my family enough to share that with....

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Mar 20, 2009 10:57am
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What about your long lost Cousin Elbow?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 20, 2009 11:03am
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Cousin Elbow sounds like something out of the Adamm's Family. You can stick to the embalming fluid.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Mar 20, 2009 11:07am
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Funny you mention that because it relates to the origin of my nickname. When it was real hip to shorten your name to JLo or PDid or ARod, I realized that my nickname LBo was problematic. I was considering a career change and hiphop artist was at the top of my list. Despite being a 40 year old white guy who is short, overweight and has no sense of rhyme or rhythm I was not discouraged until I realized that having a name that would be pronounced "elbow" was death sentence. I explained this to the students who were in the lab at that time and they decided that even if I was not going to be the next Eminem I was still okay with them. Of course they had to say that if they wanted to graduate.

Now off to the pathology labs to see if I can find an afternoon pick-me-up.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 20, 2009 10:56am
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Ahhh... the delights of the single cask malt. I have to admit to never having sampled a single cask Irish, but I used to be a member of the Scottish Malt Whisky Society - they'd offer a selection of single cask bottlings every month identified only be a code number. (There was some reason why they couldn't just call it Lagavulin, Tomintoul or whatever, but it escapes me what it was.) The trouble with going down the single cask route (besides the huge expense) is that everything else just tastes unsatisfying and insipid in comparison. Still, one of the greatest legal pleasures available!

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Mar 20, 2009 11:28am
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Rob -

Incredible shrinking world - do you remember seeing any of the "Ardbegeddon" bottlings SMWS did a few years ago?

We had a 32 yr old that was simply amazing.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 20, 2009 11:37am
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No, I missed that. Did they actually call it Ardbegeddon? I love Ardbeg - one of my top ten, possibly top five malts.

(And if you want to know that best I ever had it would have to be a single cask Longrow - apparently '74 bottlings are going for upwards of £1000/$1400 these days - I'd have to check but I think the next bottling is due either this year or next ...)

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Mar 20, 2009 12:46pm
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Rob -

I belong to an on line whisky forum (okay whisky geeks) we call The PLOWED (People Lucid Only When Enjoying Drams) Society. We have a whisky convention in Las Vegas each year around the Consumer Electronics Show. In 2000 we were trying to come up with a theme - someone coined the phrase "Ardbegeddon" in honor of the 9 days removed and over hyped Y2K rollover.

The following year we started with the 'private' bottlings and the PLOWED Society Ardbegeddon moniker stuck.